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		<title>By: Anastasia Bodnar</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5758</link>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia Bodnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I&#039;ve added all of these great links to the page http://www.biofortified.org/resources/biotech-traits/. This is a much greater undertaking than I thought it would be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I&#8217;ve added all of these great links to the page <a href="http://www.biofortified.org/resources/biotech-traits/" rel="nofollow">http://www.biofortified.org/resources/biotech-traits/</a>. This is a much greater undertaking than I thought it would be!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Baumholder</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5739</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Baumholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s yet another database, from the Biosafety Clearinghouse:
http://bch.cbd.int/database/lmo-registry/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s yet another database, from the Biosafety Clearinghouse:<br />
<a href="http://bch.cbd.int/database/lmo-registry/" rel="nofollow">http://bch.cbd.int/database/lmo-registry/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric Baumholder</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5472</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Baumholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anastasia,

By that measure, you will also want to include in the database traits that are under development in France and recently destroyed.

See, e.g., Vandalismes de laboratoires publics, http://www.marcel-kuntz-ogm.fr/article-vandalisme-labo-public-52897421.html

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&quot;On the night of 22 to 23 June 2010, the Laboratory of Plant Genome and Development at the University s Perpignan, CNRS and the Institute for Research and Development (IRD) has been vandalized: tag &quot;No to GMO&quot; were inscribed on the growing rooms where the plants have been largely destroyed; freezer storage at -80 ° C have been disconnected and emptied. Several researchers have lost several months of experimentation and unique biological material.&quot;

You may note the lack of information about the plants and traits involved. 

Paranoia in this realm of science is so pervasive that good, solid work -- and solid progress -- is kept under wraps. Private-sector paranoia is largely driven by concerns over competitors, but literally *all* research in the field is threatened by vandals. 

In fact, the &#039;high value&#039; targets for anti-biotech vandals would be the trials which might boast of the greatest achievements. 

Accordingly, the most successful experiments are those most likely to be hit by anti-biotech vandals. Conversely, the best advances will be those most aggressively hidden. Why? The most notable success with agro biotechnology is the most notable blow to the vandals&#039; Public Relations narrative.

Between the lines, this means that efforts to construct a database of Really Good Traits (RGTs) in the pipeline is doomed to be incomplete and distorted, for political/security concerns that cannot be quantified.

If you continue in your efforts to construct a trait database, you&#039;ll need to add caveats such as this for researchers who wish to make use of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anastasia,</p>
<p>By that measure, you will also want to include in the database traits that are under development in France and recently destroyed.</p>
<p>See, e.g., Vandalismes de laboratoires publics, <a href="http://www.marcel-kuntz-ogm.fr/article-vandalisme-labo-public-52897421.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.marcel-kuntz-ogm.fr/article-vandalisme-labo-public-52897421.html</a></p>
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<p>&#8220;On the night of 22 to 23 June 2010, the Laboratory of Plant Genome and Development at the University s Perpignan, CNRS and the Institute for Research and Development (IRD) has been vandalized: tag &#8220;No to GMO&#8221; were inscribed on the growing rooms where the plants have been largely destroyed; freezer storage at -80 ° C have been disconnected and emptied. Several researchers have lost several months of experimentation and unique biological material.&#8221;</p>
<p>You may note the lack of information about the plants and traits involved. </p>
<p>Paranoia in this realm of science is so pervasive that good, solid work &#8212; and solid progress &#8212; is kept under wraps. Private-sector paranoia is largely driven by concerns over competitors, but literally *all* research in the field is threatened by vandals. </p>
<p>In fact, the &#8216;high value&#8217; targets for anti-biotech vandals would be the trials which might boast of the greatest achievements. </p>
<p>Accordingly, the most successful experiments are those most likely to be hit by anti-biotech vandals. Conversely, the best advances will be those most aggressively hidden. Why? The most notable success with agro biotechnology is the most notable blow to the vandals&#8217; Public Relations narrative.</p>
<p>Between the lines, this means that efforts to construct a database of Really Good Traits (RGTs) in the pipeline is doomed to be incomplete and distorted, for political/security concerns that cannot be quantified.</p>
<p>If you continue in your efforts to construct a trait database, you&#8217;ll need to add caveats such as this for researchers who wish to make use of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Baumholder</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5462</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Baumholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, New Zealand has a program for eucalyptus modified to withstand colder temperatures -- but, due to vandalism, etc. the field trials are being conducted in the US.

Activists are protesting this move, claiming that sending GM trees to the US &#039;will destroy New Zealand&#039;s &#039;clean and green&#039; reputation&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, New Zealand has a program for eucalyptus modified to withstand colder temperatures &#8212; but, due to vandalism, etc. the field trials are being conducted in the US.</p>
<p>Activists are protesting this move, claiming that sending GM trees to the US &#8216;will destroy New Zealand&#8217;s &#8216;clean and green&#8217; reputation&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anastasia Bodnar</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5450</link>
		<dc:creator>Anastasia Bodnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 03:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, we certainly would want to include whatever New Zealand is doing *because* of their problems with vandals. 

People who don&#039;t know much about biotech often claim that the only traits made possible by genetic engineering are traits for large American corporate farms - traits that encourage the use of herbicides. (of course, they&#039;re ignoring Bt, but that&#039;s not the point here)

What I&#039;d like to do with such a list is show what traits are possible, what&#039;s being done in countries around the world. To show, definitively, that it&#039;s not just Monsanto, that it&#039;s not just corporate science for corporate farms, that it&#039;s not just in the US. The traits are out there - we just have to collect them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, we certainly would want to include whatever New Zealand is doing *because* of their problems with vandals. </p>
<p>People who don&#8217;t know much about biotech often claim that the only traits made possible by genetic engineering are traits for large American corporate farms &#8211; traits that encourage the use of herbicides. (of course, they&#8217;re ignoring Bt, but that&#8217;s not the point here)</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d like to do with such a list is show what traits are possible, what&#8217;s being done in countries around the world. To show, definitively, that it&#8217;s not just Monsanto, that it&#8217;s not just corporate science for corporate farms, that it&#8217;s not just in the US. The traits are out there &#8211; we just have to collect them!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Baumholder</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5446</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Baumholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary M,

It&#039;s pointless to look at what New Zealand does. Its biotech research efforts are almost completely canceled by the efforts of its anti-biotech militant vandals, but feel free to waste your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary M,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pointless to look at what New Zealand does. Its biotech research efforts are almost completely canceled by the efforts of its anti-biotech militant vandals, but feel free to waste your time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan R</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5443</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amusingly I searched Maize, monsanto, US and got zero results... then realized there were multiple monsanto entries, which is just bizarre - very cool resource though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amusingly I searched Maize, monsanto, US and got zero results&#8230; then realized there were multiple monsanto entries, which is just bizarre &#8211; very cool resource though</p>
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		<title>By: Ewan R</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5442</link>
		<dc:creator>Ewan R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric - I was suggesting that its completeness is perhaps what causes issues - in terms of traits being developed commercially it isn&#039;t particularly useful (imo) to have a big list of stuff being tested, as 95%+ of stuff that is being tested is probably never going to see the light of day

Although looking through the list of phenotypes is pretty interesting - shame that not only mispells but also the same thing worded differently are all indexed as unique (I looked up yield initially and got 1 result, because it appears yield is listed in many different ways)  - once things do approach commercialization however there will be more disclosure (as per the WUE trait slated to come out shortly) which I think is what Anastasia is more looking for - traits developed (a minor handful), rather than traits in development (literally hundreds per year per company, of which I&#039;d guess only a small percentage will see a second year of testing (or a third))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8211; I was suggesting that its completeness is perhaps what causes issues &#8211; in terms of traits being developed commercially it isn&#8217;t particularly useful (imo) to have a big list of stuff being tested, as 95%+ of stuff that is being tested is probably never going to see the light of day</p>
<p>Although looking through the list of phenotypes is pretty interesting &#8211; shame that not only mispells but also the same thing worded differently are all indexed as unique (I looked up yield initially and got 1 result, because it appears yield is listed in many different ways)  &#8211; once things do approach commercialization however there will be more disclosure (as per the WUE trait slated to come out shortly) which I think is what Anastasia is more looking for &#8211; traits developed (a minor handful), rather than traits in development (literally hundreds per year per company, of which I&#8217;d guess only a small percentage will see a second year of testing (or a third))</p>
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		<title>By: MaryM</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5441</link>
		<dc:creator>MaryM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why limit to the US? Was that a requirement?  

That reminds me I need to look up that New Zealand grass....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why limit to the US? Was that a requirement?  </p>
<p>That reminds me I need to look up that New Zealand grass&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Baumholder</title>
		<link>http://www.biofortified.org/2010/06/can-you-help-biofortified/#comment-5440</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Baumholder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 20:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t I think of this before?

If you are content to have *only* commercialized GM crops, and insist on complete information, your one-stop shopping is 
http://www.cera-gmc.org/?action=gm_crop_database&amp;

I note that there&#039;s a 2010 update. It&#039;s an astounding resource.

Fly in the ointment: the database also includes crops with novel traits developed through mutagenesis, conventional breeding, etc., because Canada regulates them in the same way as &#039;GM&#039; crops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t I think of this before?</p>
<p>If you are content to have *only* commercialized GM crops, and insist on complete information, your one-stop shopping is<br />
<a href="http://www.cera-gmc.org/?action=gm_crop_database&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cera-gmc.org/?action=gm_crop_database&#038;amp</a>;</p>
<p>I note that there&#8217;s a 2010 update. It&#8217;s an astounding resource.</p>
<p>Fly in the ointment: the database also includes crops with novel traits developed through mutagenesis, conventional breeding, etc., because Canada regulates them in the same way as &#8216;GM&#8217; crops.</p>
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